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Epigenetics 101 with Suzanne B. O’Brien RN

 Released: 07/27/2022

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1. The Two States of Being [2:52] – We are holistic beings, and this means we are made up of four bodies of energy – physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual. We are equal parts of each of these four bodies of energy. At the end of life, our physical body begins to diminish, and our spiritual body of energy begins to grow. Witnessing this is a profound experience, and there is a certain part of this process where a person will have one foot in this world and one foot in the next. This is what I refer to as gaining their “spiritual eyes.” It is as if they tap into some kind of infinite intelligence and suddenly awaken to so much deep spiritual wisdom that had eluded them previously. They say things like, “I get it now!” and make sense of their past experiences and regrets. Their painful memories and hardships of life take on a new meaning and they tell me they all happened to give them an opportunity to evolve and connect with their “soul self.” It is soul growth – a growth of consciousness – and it is extremely powerful.


2. When Science Meets the Bedside [5:46] – I teach about this topic in the Doulagivers Certified End of Life Doula program, and it is one of my favorite things to teach. Henry P. Stapps is a well-known physicist who worked at the University of California, Berkeley. He did incredible work providing strong proof of his theory of non-locality. The theory of non-locality states that you and I are not local entities – that we are instead part of one, unconditional, loving consciousness. This is exactly what so many of my end-of-life patients have shared with me. Henry P. Stapp believes that our consciousness is a fundamental part of the universe and through his scientific findings was able to corroborate the existence of nonlocality properties in the field of quantum mechanics.


3. Epigenetics [6:49] – Epigenetics is a field of study in biology that examines the way our behavior and environment can affect our gene expression. It focuses on heritable phenotype changes which do not actually alter our DNA sequence, but rather can change the way our body reads the existing DNA sequence. We have 500 trillion cells in our bodies that make us who we are. Each cell contains gene expressions because they must replicate themselves over the course of our lifetime. These gene expressions are kind of like instructions for the cell so that they know what their function is. “Epi” is a Greek prefix which means “above” – so Epigenetics is the science of studying “above the genes” or basically, what is in addition to our inherited genetics that affects gene expression. What it has found is that your environment is the most determining factor on the health of our genes, and ultimately, our body. Providing ourselves with a healthy and conducive environment is, to a large extent, within our control. Where you are, who you allow around you, and what you put into your body are all products of environment. Your physical location can be controlled through the decisions we make and can have an incredible impact on our overall physical health. It is also true that what you think has a big impact on chemical releases within your body – meaning that what we choose to think about can have a strong correlation to our mental health. Our spiritual body of energy can be maintained and strengthened by allowing ourselves to just be and manage our stress and outside negative influences. We must tap into our creativity and stay in a place of harmony with our surroundings. This will allow you to follow your heart and create the life that you want – building meaningful things, contributing to the world around you, and developing loving relationships are all within reach. Epigenetics has discovered that a person can change their gene expression in as little as 90 days through intentional changes! Our emotional body of energy can be cared for through the power of forgiveness. There is the forgiveness of others and the forgiveness of self. Always remember that forgiveness is for you, not the other person. All of our experiences, especially the most painful ones, are opportunities to grow. Sometimes the most difficult moments of our life become the greatest things that have ever happened to us after we have time to process them. Through the understanding of Epigenetics, you can take control of your health and feed all four of your bodies of energy to live in total and complete alignment with your ideal life. You are in control of this.



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Speaker 1 (00:02):

Hi everyone. And welcome to this episode of ask a death doula. My name is Suzanne. O’Brien thrilled about today’s podcast. Okay. I wanna start out by saying that this information that is coming about, and you are probably well aware that we are seeing these new found scientific studies about how all of this works, and it is way different than what we’ve been taught and what we have known for hundreds, if not thousands of years, although some of the amazing people from original times, which eventually I’ll share knew about this actual way of how the universe, how the world, how life really works today’s podcast. And again, it’s about taking charge of your health. And one of the most exciting things that I wanna share with you is that you are in charge, you are in charge and what a great empowering statement that is, right?

Speaker 1 (01:02):

Because sometimes we feel that we’re so out of control with so many things in this world, but there’s so many things you can control. And also knowing that I’m gonna share with you so much information today, knowing that you have the ultimate control over your beautiful body and how it works and your life. So let’s get into it again. Welcome to ASCA death doula. My name is Susan O’Brien. Many of you who have followed me know that again, my, uh, work as a nurse has been mostly in hospice care, which is end of life care and oncology care, which is cancer care. I learned from the very moment, the first day that I went out to see hospice patients, I knew I was in the exact place I was supposed to be in, in my life. I can’t explain it even in words to what it really felt like, but it was like a puzzle piece finally fitting in my life.

Speaker 1 (02:00):

And I knew like it opened up everything. It opened up a feeling of connectedness to something so much greater than I have ever known before I had purpose. My heart was just wide open. I was connected again to, to, you know, the infinite, unconditional, loving wisdom that’s out there. Now, what I wanna share with you is on the journey, working with those at the end of life and what I witnessed firsthand miraculous things, what my patients would tell me, just awe inspiring. And I knew if people knew about that, we would never be afraid of death. In fact, we would treat it as the sacred natural experience it is, but also the best teacher about how to live. So as I’m sitting with patients at the end of life, and I wanna explain to you, we are four bodies of energy, physical, mental, emotional,

Speaker 2 (02:59):

And spiritual. We are all, that’s what a holistic being is. We’re holistic beings. So we’re four bodies of energy and we’re equal parts of it. We don’t really, we’re not taught that. And most of us don’t know that. And at the end of life, when the physical body is organically diminishing and getting less and less, I’m watching their spiritual body grow is the most profound experience. And there’s a certain part in the journey that they have one foot in this world and one foot in the next, and they get what I call their spiritual eyes, their spiritual wisdom, their spiritual awareness. And literally they will, my patients will say, I get it. Now I know why everything happened. And they make sense of things. They’ve been holding onto unforgiveness traumas that happened anger that happened, and it all makes sense and it’s all forgiven. And they say it was all meant to learn how to evolve as my spiritual self, as my soul self, that soul growth, that growth of consciousness powerful.

Speaker 2 (04:06):

Right? So when I was undeniably having these experiences as a hospice nurse and feeling it, I would feel this incredible presence in the room as people were getting close to death or even dying. And even after death time, as you, and I know it, the, the concept of time would disappear. There are times that I’d be in an end of life experience for days, you know, for a long time and I’d come out of that and I’d have to reorient. What day is it? What year is it? Where are we? Because time is you. And I know it disappears and there’s such an overwhelming, beautiful, loving frequency. So I knew that this was the real deal. I knew that finding my purpose and trusting that, knowing and finding that place, that first day of hospice, that this is I’m in the exact place because I followed that conscious part, that heart guidance, and it didn’t always make sense and it didn’t make sense going and the feeling and the completion of who I am at that moment was just so profound about this life’s journey, but then with being with people at the end of life and having them share these experiences, talking about seeing angels and seeing loved ones who’ve already died and seeing where they’re going and telling me how beautiful that it is and how incredible this energy is, changes everything.

Speaker 2 (05:32):

So now that I knew that, and I was having these experience, I, I said, okay, so science has to have some data on this, right? This can’t just be unknown to all of us. And there is, and now there’s even so much more. So the first thing that I found was, and I teach this in the doula giver certified end of life, doula training, which I love it’s called when science meets the bedside, the section of when science meets the bedside. And one of the greatest, um, things that I have found was this study with Henry P staff, who is the Dean of quantum theorists at the university of Berkeley. And he talks about the theory of non locality. And he literally goes on to say that that non locality may be the most important finding in all of science. Now that’s pretty big statement, right?

Speaker 2 (06:22):

Because there’s been a lot of great findings in St. In science. The theory of non locality may be the most profound finding in all of science. Do you know what that means? The theory of non locality means that you and I are not local entities that you and I are part of one unconditional loving consciousness. This is exactly what my end of life patients will say really important. So now let’s jump ahead to physics and the newfound science of the quantum theory of reality, epigenetics. And today in this podcast taking charge of your health, we’re talking about epigenetics. So what is epigenetics? Epigenetics is the science now of your genes and your cells. Okay? So you have, you have 500 trillion cells in your body that make up you and each cell, you can think of it as its own little being. They talk to each other, they need nutrients and they need the right environment.

Speaker 2 (07:28):

So you have 500 trillion cells in your body that within that cell has your genes within the cell and genes have expressions to replicate. So cells replicate, and the gene is like that formula or blueprint of your replication. Okay? So your DNA is like the replication inside the gene. Now this is really good. Epigenetics is the study of epi means above. So above the gene. So what they’re finding is that your environment, and we’re gonna go into that in a minute. What is really your environment consist of your environment is the most impactful decision maker on the health of your genes. Let me say that again, your environment, your personal environment is the most determining factor on the health of your genes. Wow. Not your history. You’re not doomed. If you have, you know, family history of illness, your genes and their expression, moving forward, how they divide, how they replicate is mostly determined on the environment, which you are in control of.

Speaker 2 (08:44):

This is huge. Now let’s talk about what is your environment. Your environment is not just your physical space, although that’s, that’s a huge part of it. It’s everything that impacts that beautiful being. Let’s go back to what I shared with you before your four bodies of energy. So I want you to think in terms of your four bodies of energy, and you have to know that the environment end comes into each one of those bodies of energy differently. So you are physical, right? Your mental you’re emotional and your spiritual. So let’s talk about physical for a minute. So yes, your environment what’s around you, um, who’s around you, what are you eating? So what are you putting into that physical body? Because everything, you know, has energy to it. And has, I don’t wanna get into this, the food source right now, but there’s so much that we need to do for our beautiful being that is not readily available.

Speaker 2 (09:39):

We have to really seek it out and do our due diligence of what works for our bodies, microbiome and knowing what’s really nutritious and what’s not nutritious and water intake and having that healthy balance of healthy gut, um, because that’s our immune system and, and our, uh, really our basis for our whole body. But knowing that your physical environment is going to be based on again, you know, what’s actually in your physical space, what you’re putting into your body, as far as food, water, um, toxins, if you’re around toxins and all of that, that goes on with the physical. Now let’s talk about the mental, and this is the game changer. They have done so many studies. Now that what you think, what you think releases chemicals in your body. We know that right, when you’re stressed, you have stress hormones that go into fight, or what’s called fight or flight.

Speaker 2 (10:37):

They go out. And unfortunately right now in our world today, because it’s so complicated, most of us are, are in that stress mode most of the time. And I understand it, but when you’re in stress mode, chemicals are released in your brain to say your body, you know, be on lookout, be on high alert and it’s a fight or flight, and it’s an inflammation. And it is really not meant at all to be the regular state of your being. In fact, if you’re in fight or flight, that’s when you’re gonna be exhausted. When you you’re gonna have breakdown with illness, with all of that, here’s the thing, your thoughts, and what you’re thinking, have a huge impact on the chemicals that your brain is releasing to your body. Wow. Wow. Have you had the news on and you stick with the news on and you literally, you know, even can get angry and get anxious.

Speaker 2 (11:31):

And I mean, they’re showing pictures of hob and there’s, it’s very difficult world that we’re living in right now, very challenging, but you’ve got to know that you’re in control of, and you have to be in control of what you’re allowing in into the magnitude that you’re allowing it in. Does that really do you any good? If we have news on 24 7 and are watching it and having our bodies just go into fight or flight all the time, I’m gonna say no, I don’t think that it is. So it’s very important to understand this because we have two states of being two states of being in this journey, the state of survival, which is fight or flight stress and the state of being, which is where your cells can repair, where your cells can restore, where healing takes place and where creativity takes place in your life.

Speaker 2 (12:24):

So understanding your thoughts. And when we don’t, we’re not aware of this because it takes awareness where we’re not aware that there are the two states of being in what’s happening, your survival or other, other, other terms for it are your subconscious mind is running the show 90 for 95% of the time, 95% of the time. So if I’m not aware of this, and I’m just, you know, kind of aimlessly going through my day 95% of the time, it’s going to be fight or flight, it’s gonna be survival. It’s going to be that negative loop, that negative real 95% of the time releasing those chemicals. A lot of us will, you know, I’ve worked with a lot of people and will say, I’m stuck. I can’t, I can’t make a change. I know I wanna change. I can’t make a change in my life. I, you know, the same things keep reoccurring in my life, but I don’t want that, but they keep reoccurring.

Speaker 2 (13:20):

Here’s the thing. If we don’t change the way we’re thinking, if we’re not aware, if we’re not clued into that and we keep releasing those same chemicals and we keep having that same state of being we’re creating the same life, because we’re gonna take this a step further into your physical. So we have emotional. I’ll go back to that minute. We did physical environment. We did mental. And that’s your thoughts. And I wanna jump to physical. I mean, to spiritual for a minute, because I wanna talk to you about the creativity of your life, the theory of quantum physics. Now the theory of reality, quantum theory of reality, of what your life is like, what, what journey you have they’ve now. And I believe this wholeheartedly from what my end of life patients say, what I’ve lived now, how I’ve lived it, your thoughts create those chemicals, which create a state of being, which creates then your reality of what you think about happy thoughts, happy environment, loving thoughts, loving environments, creative thoughts of, of building something from that space of being creative life.

Speaker 2 (14:33):

I’ve done it with doula givers. I followed my heart. I’ve just followed that guidance, that state of being not of survival, not of stress I’ve, I’ve lived a life of just opening that heart. And really, again, doing practices that allow me to have the energy around myself, not being glued to the news, not being dragged into arguments that are collectively going on. And we know it, we know it’s wrong, but I don’t feel personally that I can be of service if I’m in that. And I know I can’t, if I’m in a state of trying to convince this group or yelling at this group or being so angry about that and getting my personal energetic space out of, out of harmony, I need to stay in that harmony. So I can think with my heart, and I can say, how can I show up to be of the highest service?

Speaker 2 (15:27):

And that comes from the being state, not the stress state, the being state. And so when you are in that place of understanding and practice, cuz it takes practice, then you can start creating the life that you want. You get unstuck, you start living in an energetic space that allows you to create what you wanna create, how you wanna show up, be of service, loving relationships, contributing, whatever that means to you. This is everything that you understand that there’s only two states of being this state of stress, which most of us, by the way are living in or the state of that being state. And it takes practice and understanding to know how to get into that state. So epigenetics, just from, let’s just talk from the nurse and the medical background and standpoint of illness, knowing that you can change your gene expression. And there are studies that say, you can do it within 90 days.

Speaker 2 (16:32):

You can change the expression of your genes to replicate the cells in 90 days. Oh my goodness. Just within 90 days. So let’s do this. So this is really important and it’s really exciting, um, forgiveness. So what I wanna share with you is my journey with those at the end of life and forgiveness and how critical this goes back to now, the emotional body of energy and forgiveness, the emotional body of energy that we have is where we store trauma, pain, unresolved issues. All of that energy gets stuck. It’s literally like blocks or balls of energy. And when you’re stuck with that energy, because it’s unprocessed, you can’t flow in that high state of being to the, to the extent that we want to, right? Because we have to move that energy, energy cannot be destroyed. It doesn’t go away. So when we push things down and there’s a reason that we do it because at the time that it happened to us, we weren’t able to process.

Speaker 2 (17:31):

We were in survival mode and that’s okay, but we’ve gotta know that we’ve got to release these things in order to again, be that clear, beautiful state of being now forgiveness is the most important tool that you have in order to release energy. And in this life’s journey, you know, there are things that are, let’s go back to what the end of life patients say. Everything was meant for a reason, every experience, even the painful ones, especially the painful ones, were the greatest opportunities for soul growth. You know, the universe loves you and the universe is here for you. God source, whatever your belief system is. And it’s always working on your behalf for your best soul growth. And that comes in very difficult challenges, right? Because when we go through those there’s introspective growth and there’s, you know, contemplation and there’s times where we say to ourselves, I don’t wanna be this isn’t serving me anymore.

Speaker 2 (18:43):

Whatever I’m doing or whoever I’m hanging out with or whatever it is. And we make these big leaps because of that painful space. So on the other side of that is huge growth. In fact, my patients, several of them have told me that the cancer, they got the illness they got was the greatest thing that ever happened to them. And as a young nurse, I couldn’t understand why they were saying that, but they were saying that because it was the opportunity for them to shed that human part of them and find their being part that is always unconditionally loving. That is always connected. That is always at peace. Wow. Let’s not wait for an illness to come about, to bring us to that level of consciousness. Let’s do it. Now we can do it now. So talking about taking charge of your health, epigenetics, the techniques to raise those vibrational frequencies, to get you into the being state can allow you to access that.

Speaker 2 (19:46):

Now remember when I, the first day of hospice, the very first day that I went to hospice and I followed my calling, there was not making any sense, right? I was a young nurse. I kept hearing go to hospice, go to hospice, my heart, just set, go, go to hospice. That made no sense. I had no end of life experience. I’d be leaving a nursing job with better pay, better hours and better benefits. Why would I do that? And I said, you know what? I’m just gonna follow this. I’m just gonna see what this is. I haven’t figured it all out. I knew that I was happy, but I hadn’t really hit it. I knew there was more. And I said, I’m just gonna see what this is. And on the very first day that I went out to see hospice patients, I knew I was in the exact place I was supposed to be in, in my life.

Speaker 2 (20:32):

And it was just like that conscious awakening that the patients say at the end of life, but we can access it. Now. I felt connected to something so much greater than I had ever known. I felt a sense of peace. It’s like air. I was breathing air for the first time ever. And it felt so wonderful. So this is what I wanna share with you is that you are in control of this and you can access this. Now, if you so choose, and I’m gonna share with you how you can do that. So this is extremely important. And then the forgiveness with my patients at the end of life for the emotional part of our being is that forgiveness is the tool for us to look back at situations. And again, there’s forgiveness of others and there’s forgiveness of ourselves. And this is that opportunity to look back on our lives and to say, what doesn’t serve me anymore.

Speaker 2 (21:24):

What am I carrying around? What is weighing me down? What is keeping me stuck? And so when we look at things and we offer forgiveness and forgiveness is for you, it is not for the other person. It allows us to release those stuck heavy balls of energy. And when you release it, when you literally, and I’ve seen this at the end of life, when people organically are getting to that space, where they’re able to look at things from a more loving point of view, when they’re able to give that forgiveness and release it, it’s like their whole energetic space lights up, like nothing I’ve ever seen before. And it leads to the most beautiful end of life’s. What about if we take that opportunity to use forgiveness now in our lives and open up our lives to that energetic space and have our life to live in that beautiful state of creation and consciousness, let’s learn from those beautiful people at the end of life.

Speaker 2 (22:23):

So the study of epigenetics and how you can change your gene expression and how your environment, but your thoughts. I wanna really hone into your thoughts on this podcast, how your thoughts release chemicals in your body that will signal your body to be in either the state of stress fight or flight survival or the state of conscious stillness being, and creation. Let’s go with the state of being and creation and create the lives we want. It’s amazing, and everyone is able to do this. So I wanna thank you so very much. And I also wanna share with you that if you want to learn more about this, there is a link below to join the wait list for the Ulm membership, which is the universal life mastery membership. We will be sharing so much information about this way to individually raise consciousness. And then of course, collectively to raise consciousness. So we can live in a new world that we wanna see for everyone because it’s available and it’s there, but we need to be aware. We need to know the techniques and we need to know how to reach that place. So if you want more information on that, join the wait list. We are so excited

Speaker 3 (23:44):

About this. It’s gonna be a beautiful and already, is it a beautiful community, but we’re gonna be opening it up to so many more people, which is wonderful. So there’s a link below to join the wait list. And of course, if you want to learn how to care for somebody at the end of life, please join the next level. One end of life, doula givers training. The link is below. Thank you so much, everyone I’m sending you so much love. I know that this life is so difficult, but it doesn’t need to be again, remember that the most difficult, challenging things can be our greatest opportunities for that growth and to create the lives we want. And I think we’re going through that together as a, as a world collectively right now, let’s get to the other side of this in the most beautiful way possible. I love you guys so much. This was ASCA death doula. My name is Susan O’Brien and I’ll see you in the next episode. It.


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